MDBuds breeding project

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@Kris you’re welcome. Agent orange is very similar to orange skunk as well. You just gave me an idea for a topic as well. Ask MD Buds. It’ll be all about terpenes and strain information so people have a topic to go to to ask for strain recommendations. It’ll make it easier for me too to track down people asking for help. Lol

Speaking of, I’ll be starting some orange skunk again soon and breeding it in to my agent orange. Figure they would go well together and make a beast of an orange terp sativa.

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#217

I just sit back in awe as I read…way over my head but I really enjoy reading the knowledge that others possess. Having one central location for information on different strains would be very beneficial. I know we all have different traits/ tastes we are looking for. Your new project sounds very interesting!

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#218

@Kris indeed we all do. Part of the real reason that I’m breeding the agent orange and orange skunk is for cancer patients. Especially for those going through chemo. Other than the cancer fighting terpenes in both, they are also high in valencene which gives it that orange flavor (similar to limonene but different) but valencene is also been shown to work with and increase the effectiveness of certain chemotherapy drugs like doxorubicin.

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#219

@Kris might throw taangie in there too. :thinking:

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#220

Thank you for what you are doing to help others. When one of my friends had breast cancer she really wanted to smoke but a counselor friend of hers told her it hurt her bodies immunization. I am upfront with my doctor and I asked him about it. His reply was “moderation”. I would have loved to have known about a strain that was bred especially for people going through what she was, enabling her to enjoy getting high again.

Looking forward to reading your results. A good tasting orange taste high in THC sounds awesome!

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#221

@Kris thank you. I’ll be breeding cbd back into it as well. My end result I’m hoping for something with a terpene profile that tastes and smells like spiced oranges for the right mix of medicinal benefits.

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#222

Bro that sounds amazing!! Helping heal is what this wonderful plant is all about. Thank you MDBuds!! For using your skills for what this plant was intended for. Keep up the amazing work!! You are making a real difference in this world!!!:pray::pray:

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#223

Finally almost ready for pollination. The boys are now quarantined outside in their own mini pop up greenhouses for pollen control. Nothing is getting knocked up on my watch unless I do it myself. :joy:

Anywho, photo 1 is White Widow male and photo 2 is Agent Orange male. Will be pollinating in about two weeks once the boys finish maturing and start dropping pollen which puts my ladies at the optimal pollination stage for seeds to be ready at time for harvest for flower without needing to extend harvest to wait for seeds to mature. Happy growing folks. :v::call_me_hand::metal:

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#224

Apologies for posting this here. Didn’t you or your lady post about the importance of the color of bottles for botanicals? I could have sworn there was something about the degradation of the chemical constituents somewhere. Unfortunately, I can’t find it. I’ll delete this as appropriate.

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#225

@kmac03 that’s appropriate for breeding as most solutions used for breeding require the same type of storage. Frosted amber, amber, blue, green glass containers. Frosted amber and amber are the best for storage as they will filter out both visible light and UV. Blue and green will filter out visible light but they won’t filter UV so should only be used indoor away from sources of UV light.

These bottles are essential for protecting breeding colloids and solutions such as colloidal silver and STS from oxidation as well as protecting essential oils and rooting/breeding hormones and solutions from oxidation.

Some are best stored in a refrigerator or freezer but some like colloidal silver and sts should be stored at room temperature so that the cold doesn’t interfere with the brownian motion.

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#226

Yes! Exactly what I was aiming for. I realized maybe a lot don’t realize and that’s my privilege. It’s why I normally have brown bottles for my tinctures and mason jars. I’d love violet, but too rich for my blood. Otherwise, the other light ranges degrade medicinal herbs and flowers, too.

I didn’t want to make a thread over it. Thank you for your knowledge! :v:t2: :star_struck:

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#227

@kmac03 I’m saving up for amber Mason Jars. I have plenty of clear but all of my other jars and storage containers are amber or frosted amber. My tincture containers are frosted amber, my seed containers are amber with black lids, my solution spray bottles are arctic blue frosted glass, only thing I haven’t upgraded yet like I should are my mason jars for curing or making my colloids. :joy:

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#228

I have exactly four 1L amber Ball/Mason jars. I was going to buy more last week, but times are tough all over. I’ll probably place am order for more this week, let me know if you need any.

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#230

@MDBuds I was wondering when you do your breeding projects…, is it based on, like a culling of 100 down to a certain number? Because I have a couple strains that are a bit unstable and I’d need a strong males pollen to cross with to eliminate the compound feminization…:sunglasses:

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#231

@CkNugz I do it in batches of roughly 12 at a time. The ones that pass stress testing in seedling and veg I keep in veg until I have a few good ones to flower. This round I went through 36 gold leaf, 36 white widow, and 36 agent orange. Only 1 gold leaf passed, 2 white widow, and 3 agent orange. I will pheno hunt their progeny as well and do the same stress testing and culling to breed in the vigor and hardiness. After about the 3rd generation so roughly 100 offspring from the line I will start pheno hunting for potency along with the terpenes and hardiness I want. It takes a lot longer because I have a small two tent operation but the end results are just as good as larg scale labs and operations. Just takes more time.

Currently I’m on progeny 2 with white widow, f2 fem with gold leaf, and progeny 1 with agent orange.

This next pollination will bring my white widow to progeny 3, my gold leaf to f3 fem and a few progeny 2 gold leaf fem f1 crosses, and my agent orange to progeny 2. So I’m close. Within the next year I hope to finish these breeding projects I have and have some very hardy stable strains.

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#232

@CkNugz my last lab test I had done on my white widow I had decent potency. 23% thc and 1.2% cbd which is amazing for white widow but my terpenes weren’t where I wanted them so I’m continuing with the breeding. My agent orange was only 17% thc but it had terpenes galore and .7% cbd. Hoping to keep the terps with my agent orange and increase potency. Will do the lab tests here shortly after they are harvested.

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#233

Can you please explain this further? There is a logjam in my communication system.

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#234

@kmac03 breeding in vigor means you choose the phenotypes with vigorous growth resistant to environmental stressors such as heat, humidity, pests, etc… my white widow has passed all tests each time so the offspring will have the same vigor. Culling plants that become stunted or sick and breeding only the ones that are seemingly unaffected.

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#235

I was getting stuck on the term because vigor in EMS is WAY different and I couldn’t get around the corner with it, so to speak. I appreciate you. :v:t2:

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#236

@MDBuds would love to have that kinda space…Sounds like fun… doing it the right way, probably better than large scale operations imo…:sunglasses: more attention to detail…

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