Hps or led question

Hi could someone answer this for me.
I have a 2 ft x 2 ft tent.
I have both a dimmable 600w hps and a phlizon 2022 (100-150w??).
Take energy costs away, which would get me the best results? . The hps does give me some needed heat.
What configuration, what % power and distance from plants. Any thoughts welcome
Thanks

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Run the led in veg . . . if you can handle the heat run the hps in flower. I know you shouldnā€™t dim hps more than 50% . . . Iā€™ve never ran one less than 100%. Add a 3x3 flower room and run both

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Space restraints unfortunately but I did a day 21 defoliation and made some clones so thinking of using led for those but not if it was the best option. I think the hps maybe with clones in mind. How much should I dim it by. There is 250w/400w/600w/660w. In a 2x2. Say 400?? Higher lower?

400 should be plenty . . . I wouldnā€™t go lower. Decent hps bulbs are expensive and donā€™t last long enough anyway, dimming too much is supposed to shorten life even more. How many hours does your current bulb have on it?

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Not sure. Prob one grow. I had loads of bulbs as Iā€™ve downscale massively (from a 2.4m2 to a 0.7m2) but not sure where they Al are.
Thanks for your advice Iā€™m gonna use the hps at 400 and put the Led over the clones. If the bulb goes ill put led in til I get a new bulb. There is a grow shop within a mile of my home

You should be set then . . . bulbs generally last 3-4 grows at least, and most donā€™t blow out, just the drop off in output by 3000-5000 hours becomes enough to warrant bulb replacement. Current bulb technology may be better . . . Iā€™m not up to date on HID lighting these days.

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With hps it needs to be 4 foot away from ur plants I canā€™t use one my grow is small but led like u have are better than.hps get u same yeilds cost.u way way less in electric I use bestva bp1000/from the wall it pulls 125watt but it.pegs light letter out at 3feet away I really like.led.

Maybe 4-5ā€™ for seedlings. From personal experience the best hanging height for a 600w HPS is 18-24" . . . however, Shane with Migro Lighting tested a 600w HPS in an Adjusta Wing reflector and says that 16" is best for PAR delivery on canopy vs leaf temps.

@frogyrogy @Timothy80

Ive started at 250w to get em used to maybe more and temps/humidity.
At that wattage Iā€™m getting 29-32Ā°c lights on and 20-24 lights out. Humidity is 32-40 on and 48-52 off. In my 2x2 I have a couple of cheap amazon co2 bags that prob arenā€™t contributing much. Iā€™m planning on going up maybe to 400 shortly to test at least.
What distance should I have between girls and glow? With running at 250w, and 400w too. Thanks

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Iv never uses hps just led just what I read up on.I.would like to.try.hps.tho

Best advice I can give to actually dial in the height is the photone app . . . let the lamp get hot and take readings at different heights to get proper DLI. Couple of $ to unlock HPS light source on the App but itā€™s worth it.

Stick with LED if you can . . . they are more efficient and last longer. Unless you need the heat . . . HID lamps run hot. I donā€™t know the tech terms but from what I understand LED turns more of the electricity used into light, less into heat than HID does . . . efficiency. Correct me if Iā€™m wrong about that.

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I agree led is the way to go I.love them

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LED in flower especially.

Lower temperature is required to retain terpenesā€¦

77ā°-78ā° max.

SpiderFarmer has lights with detachable balast.
The heat can be outside the tent for the most part.

Co2 allows you to push to 2200 PPFD at 88ā°f

They grow fast then friend.

Good luck :four_leaf_clover:

TeamFatOnes

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Misled you

2200 PPFD in flower at 78ā°

1500-1700 PPFD (strains) at 88ā°+ in vegg

TeamFatOnes Out

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